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« on: January 11, 2007, 04:16:11 PM »

Levine's a busy little rainmaker, isn't he?  A tipster points us to this ad in the current APR:



Special thanks to my favorite serials specialist who found, copied, and faxed this! important! document!
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 09:47:16 AM »

Alan, check this out:
At

https://www.tupelopress.org/indexssl.shtml

It reads:
"Judged jointly by Jeffrey Levine, Editor-in-Chief of Tupelo Press together with Carol Ann Davis, Editor of the esteemed literary journal Crazyhorse."

But at

http://crazyhorse.cofc.edu/pubinstitute.html

It reads:
"The institute will combine an intensive, four-week course that chronicles the choosing of the winner in the annual Tupelo Press First Book Prize with opportunities to intern at Crazyhorse. Students will gain important practical experience that will better prepare them for careers as writers and editors, and graduate credit earned at the institute will be fully transferable. We hope you’ll consider entering the Tupelo Press First Book Award...."

What's that mean? Chronicles? Is screening for the contest the promised preparation for an editorial career? Note below it is stated that "Tupelo Press does not use students or interns as readers at any stage of its competitions."

"We hope you’ll consider entering the Tupelo Press First Book Award (deadline: April 15, 2007), or attending the Crazyhorse/Tupelo Press Publishing Institute (applications due May 1, 2007) in June."

"The manuscripts will be read by the editorial staff of the journal Crazyhorse (Carol Ann Davis and Garrett Doherty), who will narrow the field to 50 semifinalists, which are then "ranked." Generally, the top 10-25 manuscripts become finalists. Jeffrey Levine, Editor-in-Chief of Tupelo Press, and Carol Ann Davis, Editor of Crazyhorse, will select the winning manuscript from among those finalists... Tupelo Press does not use students or interns as readers at any stage of its competitions."

So the Crazyhorse/Tupelo Press Publishing Institute and the judging of the Tupelo Press First Book Award will run concurrently! And the participants of the former will chronicle the latter! How will the "editorial staff" do two things at once?

Unless I am too cynical to live, they are saying that Institute "participants" are not  "students or interns!" That's what the ads and guidelines do not explicitly state. That's the rock under which the deception hides.

It is possible that I am too cynical to live - can you collate these statements differently?

Cheers, Indiepoet
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 12:46:25 PM »

Quote from: "indiepoet"
Alan, check this out:
At

https://www.tupelopress.org/indexssl.shtml

It reads:
"Judged jointly by Jeffrey Levine, Editor-in-Chief of Tupelo Press together with Carol Ann Davis, Editor of the esteemed literary journal Crazyhorse."

But at

http://crazyhorse.cofc.edu/pubinstitute.html

It reads:
"The institute will combine an intensive, four-week course that chronicles the choosing of the winner in the annual Tupelo Press First Book Prize with opportunities to intern at Crazyhorse. Students will gain important practical experience that will better prepare them for careers as writers and editors, and graduate credit earned at the institute will be fully transferable. We hope you’ll consider entering the Tupelo Press First Book Award...."

What's that mean? Chronicles? Is screening for the contest the promised preparation for an editorial career? Note below it is stated that "Tupelo Press does not use students or interns as readers at any stage of its competitions."

"We hope you’ll consider entering the Tupelo Press First Book Award (deadline: April 15, 2007), or attending the Crazyhorse/Tupelo Press Publishing Institute (applications due May 1, 2007) in June."

"The manuscripts will be read by the editorial staff of the journal Crazyhorse (Carol Ann Davis and Garrett Doherty), who will narrow the field to 50 semifinalists, which are then "ranked." Generally, the top 10-25 manuscripts become finalists. Jeffrey Levine, Editor-in-Chief of Tupelo Press, and Carol Ann Davis, Editor of Crazyhorse, will select the winning manuscript from among those finalists... Tupelo Press does not use students or interns as readers at any stage of its competitions."

So the Crazyhorse/Tupelo Press Publishing Institute and the judging of the Tupelo Press First Book Award will run concurrently! And the participants of the former will chronicle the latter! How will the "editorial staff" do two things at once?

Unless I am too cynical to live, they are saying that Institute "participants" are not  "students or interns!" That's what the ads and guidelines do not explicitly state. That's the rock under which the deception hides.

It is possible that I am too cynical to live - can you collate these statements differently?

Cheers, Indiepoet


I see.  So if you don't have screeners at hand, or you can't pay them, set up an 'institute' and charge them to screen for you!  Yea!
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 01:41:47 PM »

This is doublespeak. They don't use interns or students as screeners, they use them to chronicle the selection of manuscripts in concert with the judges during the period when the prizes are decided.

I don't think any of the ads say when the winners will be announced, but I'll bet it's not until the "Institute" business is over. This is as slick as it gets -- have students and interns pay you to do it, call it training for an editiorial career, call them "participants" and no one can say you are using students and interns! :lol:

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2007, 02:56:23 PM »

Quote from: "indiepoet"
This is doublespeak. They don't use interns or students as screeners, they use them to chronicle the selection of manuscripts in concert with the judges during the period when the prizes are decided.

I don't think any of the ads say when the winners will be announced, but I'll bet it's not until the "Institute" business is over. This is as slick as it gets -- have students and interns pay you to do it, call it training for an editiorial career, call them "participants" and no one can say you are using students and interns! :lol:

indie


It's Jeff Levine-type genius.  You charge 'institute' participants to watch you screen a contest.  First-rate, po-biz brilliance!
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2007, 03:09:01 PM »

I think it's a sure bet the participants are doing more than watching. How can looking at someone else reading a manuscript train someone for an editorial career? Obviously they are doing some reading themselves.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2007, 03:37:10 PM »

This is po-biz's first REALITY SHOW.  Join host, Jeffrey Levine, as he chronicles the further gullibility of those he purports to help.  Probably will air on FOX.  Can I go on the record here and say that Levine is pure evil?
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2007, 03:46:38 PM »

Alan wrote:
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Join host, Jeffrey Levine, as he chronicles the further gullibility of those he purports to help.


"chronicle" being the operative word there!

Hard to suss out why he chose that word under which to hide his scam.

"verb 1. record in chronological order; make a historical record " dictionary.com

Are the participants going to create a chronology of all the manuscripts as they are read? Or does Levine know some obscure, possible archaic definition of the word that means "screen?"  :lol:

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 05:49:46 PM »

of the College of Charleston?  Why does she surround herself with Foetry and why does she so actively want to connect the College of Charleston to exposed hucksters?  First Tupelo and now . . .

POET CD WRIGHT TO SPEAK ON POETRY AT THE COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON

CONTACTS:  Claire Fund, 843-953-8002 fundc@cofc.edu or Carol Ann Davis 843-953-7269 davisca@cofc.edu

Oh look!  Her first book is due out from Tupelo!
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 06:33:42 PM »

Maybe she's well acquainted with the touch of the velvet hand
like a lizard on a window pane.
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 07:47:57 PM »

Well said.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 08:56:58 AM »

Really, really charming, the kindergarten manner in which her resume is laid out:

- Poetry writing
- Contemporary and modern poetry and poetics
- Literary publishing

Isn't that sweet?

'Poetry' will not do.  

'Poetry writing.'  How nice.

'Contemporary and modern'    Oh, she's up to date!   Not only 'contemporary' but 'modern!'

But not interested in that 'old stuff.'   Good for her.  That's refreshing, isn't it?

'Poetics'     Ooooh.  Don't mess with Carol Ann Davis!

And last, but not least, 'Literary publishing.'    

Brilliant.  After 'poetry writing' comes 'publishing.'    She's got all her ducks in a row!
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2007, 08:48:06 AM »

Some other odd things at Crazyhorse:

1. The fiction editor is Anthony Varallo.  You'll recall that Varallo "won" the Iowa fiction prize . . . after graduating from Iowa.

2. This year's poetry winner of the Crazyhorse contest is Kerri Webster, Janet Holmes' colleague at Boise State.  Dean Young (Colorado Prize/Iowa prof) picked her poem.  remember Kerri?  She was one of the last winners of the Georgia prize too.
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2007, 09:27:44 AM »

Cozyhorse?
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2007, 09:52:52 AM »

Actually, I think Crazyhorse is one of the better academic creative writing journals. I've read enough good poetry there to think I might fit well within its pages, though I've never received a single iota of human ink to my several submissions.

But I cannot imagine why they would want to boast now of their affiliation with Tupelo/Levine.  It seems Levine still doesn't get it, nor does Crazyhorse.  At least someone like Santos at Missouri of Vassar Miller notoriety, though he could not muster the guts for a public apology, at least has the sense to take a much much lower profile, a kind of apology and repentance at once.

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