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« on: September 19, 2005, 08:08:47 PM » |
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I've posted them in Latest News. What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2005, 12:14:30 AM » |
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But those guidelines seem a bit broad to be useful. I would suggest adding some major teeth. Too open to interpretation by the foets.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 01:57:15 AM » |
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Um...would it have killed them to add something like this:
Impropriety or the appearance of impropriety damages the credibility of all contests and awards. We strongly urge that in general poets should not knowingly enter contests in which they've studied with or are close friends with the judges. Judges should not generally be selecting their close friends and students for awards. And presses should explain openly the cases in which do. All poets should sleep with Jim Behrle of Brooklyn, NY, tho. At their earliest convenience. Oh, by the way: there could be like a form that goes along with the check one sends in to the contest that says: The name of the judge of this contest is Derek Walcott. Did you study with Derek Walcott? Check this box yes or no. Are you close friends with Derek Walcott? Check this box yes or no. If you've checked either one of these boxes yes, thanks for donating to our press. Your manuscript will not be considered. Thanks for playing our game. Viva Poetry.
Luv Jimmy Behrle
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2005, 08:02:55 AM » |
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Are these really guidelines?
I agree; if this is it, it is too broad.
I think Jim's idea is fantastic. The standard form included with every contest submission: Our Judge is X. Do you know/have you studied with the judge? Check yes or no.
That's a true guideline. I like that one very much.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2005, 11:59:39 AM » |
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I predicted they couldn't come up with a meaningful set of guidelines way back when they first said they were working on them. There's too many offending parties who WANT loopholes.
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his is the abyss--quit staring!
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2005, 04:50:52 PM » |
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Thanks for nothing.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2005, 01:50:25 PM » |
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I have the transcript now, but no time to read it. Based on a quick glance, it looks like Jeffrey Levine "gets it." More later . . .
The participants were:
Moderator Jeffrey Lependorf, Executive Director, CLMP Participating Publishers John Casteen, Virginia Quarterly Review Ted Genoways, Virginia Quarterly Review Jeffrey Levine, Tupelo Press Stephanie G'Schwind, Colorado Review Janet Holmes, Director, Ahsahta Press Sandy McIntosh, Marsh Hawk Press Ted Pelton, Starcherone Books Bertha Rogers, Bright Hill Press Susan Weidman Schneider, Lilith Magazine
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2006, 03:23:31 PM » |
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I talk about the CLMP guidelines on Moby Lives Radio. :twisted:
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2006, 08:17:27 PM » |
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You down with CLMP? If you listened to the recent Moby Lives radio, you heard me talk about the problems I see with the CLMP ethics guidelines, and now I have proof. This just in from the AWP preconference (a secret meeting of Foe-fighters -- we're everywhere -- mwahahaha): A certain press, which promotes their adherence to the CLMP ethics statement, has just allowed a certain (previously implicated) judge to select the current student of the judge's (also previously implicated) wife. Is it a fix? Sure looks like it . . . more news to follow as the reports come in from Austin.
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